A riveting conversation between the two artists touching on seminal influences experiences and practicesThis thoughtprovoking publication presents a fecund dialogue between Chicagobased painter McArthur Binion born 1946 and New Yorkbased photographer Jules Allen born 1947 two American artists taking different approaches to rendering the Black experience. To illustrate their interactions Binion contributes a new series of paintings and Allen contributes his most recent images as well as a collection of archival blackandwhite photographs. In a sinuous stimulating conversation the longterm friends discuss their musical influences education and shared experiences developing their skills as artists in New York.